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Dissenting Opinion -No, Not All Gun-Rights Advocates Voted For Palin/MCain

Posted by Bill Nance on April 8, 2009

Deep breath….

Well, I had the temerity to (again) admit that I campaigned and voted for Barack Obama in November – Something I’ve never been in the slightest bit bashful about.  But when you admit these things on a decidedly right-wing gun forum, you’d better get ready for the fireworks. I admit I didn’t expect the animosity I received.

A few comments resulting from that post: (all anonymous by the way):

  • obama? thanks a fuckin lot
  • You Socialist scumbag.
  • A socalist is a socalist, they are all bad. You’re no [sic] excemption.
  • Burn those flags, brother!

These were actually, some of the tamest things said.

So how can someone who loves their guns, is an absolutist on the Human Right of self-defense (and the means to that defense) vote for a guy like Barack Obama? Easy enough to answer.

First and foremost, the country faces enormous challenges, politically, internationally and of course economically. The McCain/Palin ticket seemed to me to have virtually no answers on any of those issues. They promised what was, in all substance, a third Bush term.

Second, John McCain did two things for which I will forgive no politician, ever.

One: He voted against making the CIA hold itself to the same standards as the U.S. military’s Field Manual on Interrogations. In other words, torture is fine as long as the CIA does it.

Two: His pick of Sarah Palin, the buffoon from Wasilla, with major ties to a secessionist movement, not a shred of understanding of ANY issue of national importance and a religious fanatic to boot, was frankly the most horrendously cynical and irresponsible move by a major party presidential candidate in history. As I said at the time, Palin makes Dan Quayle look like Winston Churchill. -And I wasn’t alone. Many Republicans came to the same conclusion.

Finally, I liked lots of what Barack Obama was talking about.

Anyone who thinks the current healthcare system is actually working is not aware of the facts of the matter -it’s plain willful ignorance.

The notion that zero government intervention or yet MORE tax breaks for the already wealthy is the proper response when the market has imploded in an unprecedented way is a position firmly opposed to reality.

And finally, anyone who thinks more bellicose language and a refusal to deal with Realpolitik is a good idea hasn’t paid attention for the last 8 years. This is not even mentioning the Republicans’ complete capitulation on any semblance of fiscal discipline or intellectual honesty since 2001.

All that having been said, there was one guy with whom I agreed on lots of things and bitterly opposed on a few others (mostly guns and the sheer level of government growth) The other person running stood for absolutely nothing I believed in, had not a shred of credibility and had chosen someone as a running-mate who wasn’t qualified to be a decent mayor a a mid-sized town, much less Vice President of the United States.The ONLY thing I liked about the McCain/Palin ticket was their stance on gun control.

Given those choices, it was obvious to me who the right man was among the two serious candidates. I thought at the time and still believe that a McCain/Palin administration would have been utter disaster for this country. I think Obama will, overall, do a vastly better job. Gun control is ONE issue. A very important one, but not the ONLY one.

For those who can’t figure this out, let me ask you to join me in a quick thought experiment.

Suppose Ted Kennedy were running for office vs. an Anti-gun Republican with otherwise solid “conservative” credentials.

Now pretend for a moment that Kennedy had been an ardent supporter of the Second Amendment for his entire career, but that all his other positions were identical to what we all know and despise.

By you’re logic, given the above facts, you’d all vote for TED KENNEDY based on guns alone? -Gimme a Freakin break.

That’s the same choice you’d have me make in voting for the McCain Palin ticket. I won’t do it, I didn’t do it, and no, I don’t regret it for a second.


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Hitchens blasts Palin/McCain on science

Posted by Bill Nance on October 27, 2008

Hitch weighs in on Palin/McCain’s disgusting record on science.

The juice:

This is what the Republican Party has done to us this year: It has placed within reach of the Oval Office a woman who is a religious fanatic and a proud, boastful ignoramus. Those who despise science and learning are not anti-elitist. They are morally and intellectually slothful people who are secretly envious of the educated and the cultured. And those who prate of spiritual warfare and demons are not just “people of faith” but theocratic bullies. On Nov. 4, anyone who cares for the Constitution has a clear duty to repudiate this wickedness and stupidity.

Welcome to the party Hitch. It’s about time you joined the rest of us.

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Caligula for President!

Posted by Bill Nance on October 27, 2008

Clearly; this is the man we need in these dangerous times:

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Hat tip: Boing Boing

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Joe the Plumber can’t fix this one

Posted by Bill Nance on October 25, 2008

From the Times of London:

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I’m a dirty “Librul” -like Peggy Noonan and George Will

Posted by Bill Nance on October 24, 2008

I’ve been reading the apologists for the GOP and the McCain joke candidacy and I have found out that yes, I am a liberal. Who knew?

SO lets see here:

  • I oppose Roe vs Wade because I think it’s bad law and believe in federalism. (Even though I think government should leave this decision to women -If you agree with me that abortion is at best a trade-off of rights, then don’t have one).
  • I think government in general should keep their noses out of people’s private lives, specifically what they ingest or who they have sex with, but in general, leaving me the Hell alone unless I’m doing someone else injury.
  • I think small government is a good thing. What government we need should be held strictly accountable and work as cheaply as possible while remaining efficient.
  • I think any program which spends money needs to be matched by either revenues or spending cuts in other areas.
  • I think the military needs to be well funded, trained and used both in direct support of our national interests and in the interests of world stability, because instability always comes back to bite us.
  • I think the Second Amendment to the constitution means exactly what it says and resent government trying to restrict my fundamental rights under the guise of safety.
  • I think taxes should be no higher than necessary to support government spending. I’m a believer in no tax breaks for anyone. If we decide to subsidize, we should do so directly and in the open light of day.
  • In keeping with Catholic Social Doctrine I believe society and government have an obligation to the poor and dispossessed. If this is “liberal” then the Catholic Church is a “liberal” institution.
  • I think it’s the duty of all men and women to serve their country, either with military service or some other community service. (Peace Corps, Teach for America, etc.). Those who do not serve are free-loaders.
  • Like Jefferson, I view banks and the stock market with distrust, knowing that great wealth acts in it’s own interests, often counter to those of the nation.

Now the last time I looked, these things all lined up with the views expressed by people like Edmund Burke, William F. Buckley, Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, et al.

But according to the new GOP, the “new conservatives,” these aren’t conservative positions at all. Apparently if one is hostile to fundamentalist wackos, reveres learning or disagrees over a strictly religious or frankly extremist position that a 2-second-old fetus is the same as a human being, you’re a “liberal.”

According to these people, if you vote anything other than Republican, if you question the racist, fear-based, politics of Karl Rove and company, If you look at Sarah Palin and see the obvious; that she is an incurious buffoon hopelessly out of her depth, or if you fail to show proper deference to bible-thumping wackos who’d never pass a sophomore test in any reputable seminary, you’re a liberal and a traitor to conservatism.

And people wonder why the number of conservatives deserting the GOP this year is so large?  It’s because the GOP has been taken over by the kooks. People who value their intellectual integrity and critical thinking don’t want anything to do with these people. -And rightly so.

Who has left the ship?

  • Colin Powell
  • Christopher Buckley
  • George Will
  • Peggy Noonan
  • Former MA Republican Governor Bill Weld
  • NRO writer Kathleen Parker
  • Bush Appointee and conservative Talk Show Host Michael Smerconish
  • Former MN Rep. Governor Arne Carlson
  • The Goldwater Family
  • Dan Drezner
  • Scott McClellan
  • Ken Adelman
  • Doug Kmeic

The list goes on and on.

So riddle me this my conservative friends: If virtually every conservative heavyweight out there has either endorsed Obama outright or publicly repudiated the McCain candidacy, are they all traitors? Were they all paid off by the “librul media?” Or maybe, just maybe, is the McCain cadidacy specifically and the GOP in general no longer very “conservative” at all?

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The conservative vote should go to Obama

Posted by Bill Nance on October 23, 2008

On September 12, 2001 I started a reading program so I could understand exactly what the Hell had just happened.

I started with re-reading the Koran (yes, I had read it before, along with several apologetics on Islam), continued with my trusty Encyclopedia Btrittanica and of course everything I could get my hands on from the Web and the local library. I also re-read the incomparable Orientalism,” by the late Edward Said. Within a matter of days I had a reasonably good idea of what our enemies were up to and why, as well as a solid understanding of how incredibly wrong were the arguments Bin Laden and others of his ilk.

This wasn’t terribly difficult to do. All I had available were the resources of a fairly small local library, an encyclopedia and the web. Since then I have done my best to keep up with the issues and read new books and articles, knowing that having my information filtered through the lens of television and it’s focus on ratings and infotainment is no substitute for well thought out and researched books and news articles.

It’s blindingly clear to anyone who open to reason that Sarah Palin has never done anything of the sort, even with seven years time to accomplish it. On my worst day, after a few dozen beers, I could give a more clear, cogent and comprehensible view of national security issues than Sarah Palin does even with coaching. I am not a genius. I am not a scholar. I’m just a regular guy with something Sarah Palin clearly lacks: A brain and an interest in using it.

The absolute ignorance of this woman on every significant international issue is nothing short of astounding. She parrots the most stupid and jingoistic catch-phrases as though these are some substitute for actual knowledge or understanding of the subjects. This ignorance might be acceptable (if still stupid and ill-informed) coming from the mob. It is catastrophic coming from a President or someone in line to be President.

As the last seven years have proved, intellectual laziness, group-think and assumptions based on the false”truths” of ideological orthodoxy make for horrendous policy. Our failures in Iraq should prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt. They led directly to too few troops to win an occupation, silencing of even supportive voices of dissent and an absolute unwillingness to deal with reality, even when the cost, both in blood and treasure were showing beyond doubt the existing strategy wasn’t working. (The time for the surge was 2004, not 2007)!

Palin represents a choice so stark for anyone who actually loves their country I can hardly believe any sane person could support her. George W. Bush has shown even Republicans how anti-intellectualism and a lack of curiosity about the world are clear and present dangers to our national security.

Sarah Palin takes all the worst qualities of the President and expands upon them. Never in the history of this country has a person more clearly unqualified for high office been nominated to be in the line of succession.

This isn’t just about experience, it’s about good judgement. John McCain, in his most important decision as a potential President, has shown an utter disregard for the safety of the nation in a cynical attempt to get elected at any cost.

McCain famously said he’d rather lose an election than lose a war. What about placing the entire country in jeopardy? No sane person can defend Palin’s lack of understanding on the serious issues facing the country. For McCain to have picked her as V.P. is a move that makes him utterly unsuitable to be President.

On November fourth, I hope my conservative friends will make the right choice and truly place their country first. Given John McCain’s age and questionable health, placing Sarah Palin anywhere near the White House is the most irresponsible act I can think of, strictly from a national security viewpoint.

Hold your nose if you have to, but if you reach for the McCain lever, remember the buffoon who you may be voting into office. Patriots will vote Obama.

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Is Barack Obama a socialist?

Posted by Bill Nance on October 20, 2008

Let’s ask Barack:

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Senator McCain.

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A conservative reaction to Sarah Palin

Posted by Bill Nance on October 20, 2008

This line is too funny (and sad) not to re-post

Chris Buckley on Sarah Palin:

“I will readily confess that I was one of many who swooned the day after the announcement. But it’s kind of like dating a supermodel; there comes a moment, unfortunately, where they start talking.”

You can read the rest of John Heilemann’s excellent article on the future of the GOP and movement conservatism here.

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A sad truth

Posted by Bill Nance on October 20, 2008

No matter who wins the Presidential election, one thing is almost certain: More gun control.

It’s all but guaranteed that the Democrats will have at least 58 seats in the U.S. Senate and it’s looking increasingly likely they will manage a  full 60-seat, filibuster-proof majority.

That means there they only have to pick up four Senate Republican votes to override a veto. The two independent votes, Lieberman I -CT and Sanders I -VT  will almost certainly vote for a Brady-like gun ban given the chance.

There are plenty of Republican Senators from mostly urban states who would vote for more gun control, so I see virtually no situation that will avoid the issue.

There are two possibilities:

  1. The law we get will be slightly less arbitrary and stupid (Only relatively, the whole idea of more laws when there’s thousands on the books that never get enforced is just stupid).
  2. The law will be as restrictive or more so than the first Brady bill (Gun confiscation is not going to happen, 5th Amendment + Heller, I’m going for it. That’s a paranoid fantasy).

On the face of it, I’d say a McCain victory would seem more likely to avoid more gun laws, but I think a veto would just get an override, and could result in worse legislation than we’d get with Obama.

Obama could actually do a better job on this issue, though I have more than a few doubts. Here’s why:

Aside from the ideologues like Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein, Democrats remember the results of the Brady bill. It was one of the signature issues that lost the Dems control of the congress in ’94. Barack Obama may be many things, but stupid is not one of them. I think he’s well aware of the screwups of 1993. He may well be able to substantially moderate the gun-phobes inclination for making gun-owner’s lives miserable. It has not been a signature issue for him and I think he’s bright enough not to mess with side-issues when there are much bigger fish to fry.

There’s no guarantee. His legislative career does not speak well for him on this issue at all. On the other hand, he represented a highly unfriendly-to-gun State. Like any politician, he may have largely gone with popular sentiment.

The other issue that’s different from 1992 is Heller vs District of Columbia. However much some people may like to call attention to it’s limited ruling, it was very clearly and specifically not the end of the issue. The court left the possibilities for more challenges to restrictive gun laws wide open. Obama, (And I think plenty of Democrats in congress) cannot lightly ignore that ruling

McCain would almost certainly veto any new attempts at a Brady bill. But he would just as likely be overridden by an emboldened congress generally pissed-off over the election results. Obama on the other hand, might be able to successfully ride herd on the members of his own party. (One hopes, though I’m deeply skeptical).

As someone who is very excited to get back into my hobby of shooting (Including the nasty scary “assault weapons,”) I’m deeply troubled by the gun-control issue. I have not drunk the Obama Kool-Aid™. I’m voting Obama with eyes wide-open, just as some McCain supporters are pro-choice. But on the other hand, I honestly see little hope of avoiding more Federal meddling with my Second Amendment rights no matter who wins the White House.

Ironically, the guy in the race who has the worst record on gun-control may have the best chances of stopping at least the most egregious attempts by urbanites in Congress to criminalize millions of law-abiding citizens.

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Colin Powell endorses Obama

Posted by Bill Nance on October 19, 2008

Colin Powell, the Republican former Secretary of State, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and National Security Advisor has endorsed Barack Obama.

At this point, virtually every serious conservative with the slightest intellectual credibility has endorsed Obama and/or decried the candidacy of John McCain.

From David Frum and George Will to Chris Buckley and Peggy Noonan, practically every one of the giants of movement conservatism, has decried the McCain candidacy, with particular disdain for the complete lack of seriousness of Sarah Palin. These are the heavyweights of Conservatism, not leftists, “media liberals” or socialists.

It seems to me that virtually all that’s left to McCain are the people screaming “Obama Osama” and and “He’s a Muslim.” I ask my friends among the McCain partisans to think about the company they are keeping.

The people they are standing with are the worst element of American society: An element full of hate, ignorance and disdain for intellectual achievement. This is what has become of the Party of Reagan. Even Newt Gingrich has expressed his disgust with the campaign, if not support for Obama.

Can anyone seriously say at this point that the McCain-Palin ticket would be good for America? Is everyone except the most radical of the right-wing ideologues wrong?

Please, think about it. Think about it long and hard. America is better than the party of Palin. It’s better than the hate seen in such unabashed and unashamed displays over the last few weeks.

My friends, you are better than this.

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